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  1. Any Knoxville Build Days coming up?

    It would be great to start doing these build parties again, especially for those with workshops to host. Good luck with any that can be done.
  2. Hello from a visiting trooper!

    Welcome, John. Hope to see you at some troops soon.
  3. Greetings from Murfreesboro as well!

    Welcome, Walter. When Doug makes his account, I can upgrade you both to MSG members instead of recruits...
  4. 501st Member? Missing forum access? Post here!

    Updated you to full member status... I assumed you would be part of the Twin Sun Squad (Memphis) and set you as both. You should no longer see "Recruit" under your name...
  5. Hello from Chapel Hill, Tn

    Welcome to the group. Vader is always one of the best characters, and most requested characters, of all... so having another Vader would be great. While you are working on builds, you are welcomed to come out and meet the local troopers at many different events... We can have handlers at several of them, so as long as it is not one of the few restricted events, please feel free to come out and join us while you are building your costume. I don't have a Vader, but I am certain that it is one of the most complex costumes (RotS or otherwise) and will take time and attention to get right. One thing you might want to do is consider getting the most basic officer or crewman costume ... or TIE pilot reserve. Once competed, you could troop with us in that one while you are working on your Vader. Once you get your Vader approved, you can still use the crewman/officer costume when you need a break from Vader or for variety. As long as they are each approved, you are not limited to one. Granted, once you get your Vader, you will probably default to that one, but you'd still have the extra option. We have at least one active Vader, but each of them can't make every event. It helps to have more than one... just not at the exact same event (unless they alternate who is Vader at one time). You might be able to touch base with some of them for guidance.
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    2022-07-10 Hoptown Hoppers Baseball SW Night Event Name: Hoptown Hoppers Baseball Venue: Hopkinsville High School Baseball Field Venue address: 430 Koffman Drive Hopkinsville, Kentucky 42240 USA Event Start: 6/2/22 - 5:30 pm Event End: 7/19/22 - 8:00 pm Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zq8tJ1FPEAaMaVhTqys9DXv8OVQPuhHvR895JRAxHBQ/edit Event Website: https://hoptownhoppers.org/ Expected number of attendees: 400 Secure changing/staging area: Yes Can troopers carry blasters: Yes Can troopers carry/bring props like lightsabers and staffs: Yes Is parking available: Yes Is venue accessible to those with limited mobility: Yes Amenities available at venue: This is a high school baseball field. There is a practice facility with private restrooms and we can provide a dressing area. We could provide bottled water, light snacks, etc for your group and concessions are available as well. Comments: The Hoptown Hoppers are a collegiate summer baseball team playing through June and July Event Captain: James Collins MSG Notes: This is a BlueGrass Garrison (BBG) event, so we would be providing support. The event request seems to have June and July, but I think the focus is on the Star Wars Night on 7/10... so that is what this is billed on... Please use the BGG spreadsheet.
  7. How's She Goin' Eh?

    You are more than welcomed to visit us down here. There will definitely be some troopers there from MidSouth, so you are certainly welcomed to come hang out with us while you are in town and at the convention. Fanboy Expo is one of the biggest ones we have in Tennessee, so whether you plan on bringing a costume to troop --or just play and relax, you are bound to meet some new friends here. I'm sure that a few would be delighted to trade swag with you as well, so feel free to bring some from up north if you will be able to do so.
  8. Nashville Comicon

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    Event Name: Nashville Comicon Venue: Fairgrounds Nashville Venue address: 625 Smith Ave Nashville, Tennessee 37203 USA Event Start: 06/04/2022 - 10am Event End: 06/5/2022 - 5pm Event Website: https://www.nashvillecomicon.com Nashville Comicon – June 4-5, 2022 HELLO AMAZING HUMANS! We’re very excited to bring Nashville Comicon to Music City USA! We want to assure everyone that we recognize all Covid-19 concerns and will be paying close attention and implementing recommended protocols as this variant continues to evolve. Your health and safety, as well www.nashvillecomicon.com Expected number of attendees: Requested number of characters: Requested character types: Secure changing/staging area: No Can troopers carry blasters: Yes Can troopers carry/bring props like lightsabers and staffs: Yes Is parking available: Yes Is venue accessible to those with limited mobility: Yes Amenities available at venue: There will be concessions and restrooms. Comments: Nashville Comicon is a first-year event with tons of special guests, artists, crafters, cosplay, games, and more. Check out our website for event details. Referred by: Googled 501st in Tennessee.
  9. Hey there from Alabama!!

    Welcome. It is fun to have Death Troopers.
  10. Hello from Portland

    Welcome, Will. Hopefully, events will continue, and we will be able to troop... at least somewhat back to normal again. We have a lot of events in Nashville area, and in Clarksville here an there. Sometimes, we even get requests for Portland or nearby events. For you, the first (or next) step will be to figure out what sort of costume(s) you like, and figure out where to start in terms of building or assembling your first approved costume. You can never go wrong with a stormtrooper or TIE pilot, and many of the other troop types. Once completed, they are always well-received at events. Each, however, does require time to build, sand, paint, and strap (to oversimplify) so that the kit looks correct and screen accurate when on you. If you have something specific already in mind, especially a favorite character that will help fuel your enthusiasm to build it and troop in it, that is usually best. However, if you are looking for something a little easier to start with, an officer or crewman might be a better place to start. You can always add another costume later, and it can be good to have alternates... So having an officer or crewman costume can be good to have even if you want a stormtrooper or something more elaborate. You might prefer the armor at some events, and a tunic or flight suit for others. Some of the officer or crewman components are the base of, or work for, a variety of other costumes. There are lots of options, so if you are not sure, or have not yet narrowed down what you want, here is the CRL (Costume Reference Library) where you can see the costumes by either type or group, or by name. You'll want to pay attention to detail and look at the pictures carefully. Sometimes, a seam or a notch can change it from approved to not. https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CRL
  11. Hello from Knoxville

    Also, we actually have a team of GML's (Garrison Membership Liaison), with Braden and Laryssa working together as needed for local approvals. Other than that, Ron is absolutely correct, and we can never have too many TK's in the roster. Braden and Laryssa are both friendly and helpful, so they can guide you through the process. As long as you are using an existing CRL for your costume, approvals stay local with them (at least for the base approval level). The more advanced approval levels (2 & 3) might need the detachment's approval, which is likely to take longer. However, if everything you submit can be approved by the local GML team, they are pretty fast. Please be patient and remember though that they are volunteers and may have other costumes to approve as well as yours... not to mention work and family responsibilities. However, it appears that the GML team has already responded. Either way, Russ, Welcome!
  12. Checking in

    Hi Shane, Now that you have some access, please feel free to sign up on our events using this forum. We'd be delighted for you to join us. While you'd be welcomed at any event, you might look at the Chattanooga (Mos Nooga Squad) events area for most of the events closer to GA... And Ron may also post some events outside the squad area that you'd be welcomed in as well... which will be in our general MidSouth Garrison events section. But of course, feel free to pick out any other events you're interested in as well. Michael
  13. For Rebel Legion costumes, please contact Kathy. Her RL username is: LookingGlassCosplay Sine you will not be able to post directly to an event thread on their forum until you have an approved RL costume, please PM her directly about any events you are interested in attending. Her profile link for a PM (private message, or direct message) is: http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=112416
  14. This will apply to all members of all our costuming groups (501st, Rebel Legion, and Mando Mercs... as well as any of the other groups that might play with is via LFL Open Invites). This reminder will be posted here and in the General Discussions area for everyone to see... When signing up for an event, please sign up with the appropriate group, for that event, based on the costume you are planning to use. If you are asking to join an event in a costume still in progress (A.K.A. "not yet approved" or pending) please request permission on the event first. I will have more coming on this later, but for now please signup through the group that your costumed character belongs to. 501st Legion ---you are already here... Rebel Legion --http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=301 but you need to make an account. Mando Mercs (MMCC) --www.Mandalorianmercs.org. For TN folks, the clan is Bes'uliik I'm not against posting to the other sites as well for the same event, but if you have an RL costume, you need to sign up through the RL's forum. If you have a Mandalorian that is not specifically in the 501st CRL listing, please join the MMCC group and signup there as appropriate for the group... Don't worry, we still want all the groups to play together at events well, but for book-keeping and census tracking for members, and permission for those pending approval, it will help all three groups. The same would apply to other groups such as the droid builder group if the group is part of the ones recognized by LFL. As of the last few months, I think that we have been consistently cross-posting events for any that both are invited between us and the RL, and even the MMCC lately. So, feel free to look here first if you'd prefer. However, please sign up with the right group based on your character first. Then, if you'd like, feel free to let us know here if you've signed up there. Ex: if you are planning to come as Han Solo or Lando, please sign up through the RL first. Then, by all means, let us know as well. But, please sign up there before posting here. If you're seeking to be a helper or handler, please sign up with the group you'd most likely want to join or troop with first. Again, this applies to ALL event signups... every squad, and every member or recruit or even handler. Thanks, and hopefully we'll see everyone at upcoming events soon.
  15. Hello from North MS!

    From time to time, we also have events in Jackson, TN... and if you want, you can also come out to Nashville, TN and see us there. If you were going to go to the ICCC at the end of April, you'll see a lot of us here. If you are able to travel, you might like the Chattanooga and Knoxville area events as well. The events closer to Memphis will be on the Twin Sun Squad calendar, but other areas will be on the other calendars by squad or in the general MidSouth Garrison calendar... Feel free to checkout out each calendar. This weekend, in Huntsville, AL, you can see several of the AL Garrison there as well, and there are bound to be a bunch of visiting troopers there as well from other garrisons.
  16. Hello from North MS!

    Hi Vickie, First, you might want to check out the MS garrison, Rancor Raiders Garrison officially. http://www.ms501st.net/ MidSouth Garrison covers TN, but if you are close enough to Memphis, TN, you might want to work with us in some part as well. MSG has a few squads where the majority of the members of the MidSouth Garrison, and one of them is the Twin Sun Squad which is the Memphis area group. We troop (go in costume to various events) to help support several charities. Before COVID-19 came into focus, we had a lot of events in TN, and I'm sure that MS did, too. Events have started to pick back up again, and are nearly back to normal, but we still take safety in mind for each event and follow local protocols --if any-- when at the events. We also get invited to other events such as conventions and Star Wars movie premiers, and some sporting events if LucasFilm Ltd. approves the event. So, the trick is to pick out and start working on building or assembling your first costume, and you can add more later as you build them and get them approved. The goal is screen-accurate costumes and that it fits you appropriately. However, if you are not sure what to do, or where to start, there are bound to be a few troopers that can help point you in the right directions. You can come out to events and meet many in the group if you are already going to the event and there is no special limit on the event. Twin Sun Squad has several events coming up, and the closest ones are on April 30th. So if you were going to the Patriot Fest or the Carl Perkins Annual Superhero Day, you are bound to see a few of the MSG troopers in attendance. I also invite you to look at the main 501st Legion website for the details. https://www.501st.com/mission.php But, there are plenty of other details directly on this site you should look at. If you have some 501st costumes in mind, you can also find the CRL (Costume Reference Library) here that shows the details needed for each costume, and some alternate/optional ones you can also have. https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CRL
  17. Greetings from Nashville

    Mine, too.
  18. Greetings from Nashville

    Welcome, Snips. I might have seen you around here and there... The dark side is stronger! Well, so I hear.
  19. Finally got around to this

    Welcome to the party...
  20. Hello there

    Welcome to the garrison. There are all sorts of officer-classes that don't require too much in terms of "building"... which are more of an "assembly" than a build. If you aren't sure where to start, that could be a great place to begin. Of course, once you get settled, you can always add to your costumes with more complex armor builds. A lot of the officer components can be used on or for other costumes as well. The black flight suit is the base for a lot of costumes, for example, so if you are interested in anything like a TIE pilot, gunner, or even a biker scout, it is a great place to start. It won't help for costumes like stormtroopers, but it would give you a "soft" costume as an alternate. It will be a great way to relax when the harder armor gets too hard to troop in on long troops... but a stormtrooper is always a crowd-pleaser. So the real trick is to narrow down what costume(s) you want to start with...
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    Event Name: Cards & Cars Casino Night Venue: BMW of Nashville Venue address: 1568 Mallory Lane Brentwood , Tennessee 37027 USA Event Start: 03/12/2022 - 5:20 pm Event End: 03/12/2022 - Event Website: Expected number of attendees: 150 Requested number of characters: 4 Requested character types: Secure changing/staging area: Yes Can troopers carry blasters: Yes Can troopers carry/bring props like lightsabers and staffs: Yes Is parking available: Yes Is venue accessible to those with limited mobility: Yes Amenities available at venue: restrooms, water, appetizers Comments: Casino Night fundraiser for Dreams and Wishes of TN. We are SURPRISING Mackenzie (19) around 6:15 pm by letting her know her wish will be coming true. Her mom thought it would be cool if we had a couple storm troopers "escort" her around until the wish announcement. Storm Troopers would be cool...a Vader would be amazing too if anyone is available. Referred by:
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    Event Name: ICCC Venue: Music City Sheraton Venue address: 777 McGavock Pike Nashville, Tennessee 37214 USA Event Start: 4/29/2022 - 9 Event End: 5/1/2022 - 6 Event Website: www.icNashville.com Expected number of attendees: 8000 Requested number of characters: 50 Requested character types: Secure changing/staging area: Yes Can troopers carry blasters: Yes Can troopers carry/bring props like lightsabers and staffs: Yes Is parking available: Yes Is venue accessible to those with limited mobility: Yes Amenities available at venue: I keep a room that the leader of the local Garrison has the key to where there is a bathroom chairs everything. Water is provided. There is food and stuff on site but it is not free. Comments: The ICCC is a sci fi fan and collecting convention for everyone that collects vintage and modern toys and collectibles, loves meeting stars from our generation’s greatest film and TV franchises, and enjoys gathering together with a global community to celebrate the stories we all love and cherish. ICCC features hundreds of vendors from across the nation and around the world; dozens of guest stars signing autographs and taking photos with you from franchises like Star Wars, Harry Potter, Power Rangers, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones and more; movie props, cosplayers, droid builders, comic books, video game tournaments, fan groups, podcasters, artists, live music and much, much more. One of our core values is to make the ICCC affordable for the whole family. That means food that doesn’t cost a fortune, waters that aren’t 8 bucks, inexpensive tickets with family options, and the most cost effective and value-packed VIP experience that’s unmatched by “other” ! conventions. We’d be honored if you would join us every year for Tennessee’s premier sci fi fan and collecting convention. Follow the #ICCCon hashtag to get in on the buzz. Referred by: The 501st has annually attended ICCC since 2018. We are NOW Official. Event request received. and pasted above. Imperial Commissary Collectors Convention (ICCC) Nashville Sheraton Music City Hotel 777 McGavock Pk Nashville, TN 37214 https://iccollectorsconvention.com/2022 BTW: Parking at the hotel last year was $12.00 per day via credit card only, so plan accordingly. Details, as I understand them: We will have ten (10) free passes... additional passes can be purchased at 50% off for extras and handlers. I will try to get any coupon code for troopers that want the 50% discount. Approved 501st Costumes only, please, to get a free pass. RL and other groups will have their own pool of passes, so we only have to worry about our 10 passes. Once we fill the ten spots (in order of signup), we can start a waiting list... but we may have to decide when we get closer who will get tickets based on what shifts troopers agree to troop. If you get your own pass, here is the code for the 50% discounted passes: ICCC2022TROOPER If you have your own pass for the day, you can be on your own schedule and come by our table at any time. Hopefully, you'll hang out some with us too, but this is not mandatory unless you are using a free pass. Table duty is mandatory for those with free passes, though we will certainly try to work breaks in here and there and some time to walk the floor. If you'd rather be able to come and go as you please, please purchase a discounted pass. WARNING: Out of respect for the ICCC coordinator, please DO NOT give the 50% discount pass code to anyone other than our 501st handlers and extra troopers. This is not for friends or family outside the MSG troopers (and handlers). This is a courtesy to us, and the ICCC trying to balance making money with having us be present in numbers. If we abuse this, they may not offer it again. Please treat this a gift, that is only to us. RL and Mando (MMCC) members, you have your own code, so please use that to sign up instead. If you are a member of both/all three groups, please use the code based on what costume you will be using primarily. Please see the note below from ICCC... as the code only works for general admission tickets. If you plan to switch to something other than 501st approved costumes, please get one of the 50% discounted passes, where table duty will be mostly optional or at least more flexible. We can probably have shifts for this... one on Friday and 2 on Saturday and Sunday if it helps. Like last year, we can also try to swap the free passes around if the scheduling works that way... One person leaves the first shift and turns in the pass at our table on the way out. New trooper arrives for second shift and uses that pass. Anyone there all day keeps the pass for the day, but we can also swap them from the previous day to the next one. Ex: Those there on Friday leave them with someone that is going to be there on Saturday morning, and Saturday afternoon troopers can leave them for Sunday morning. Free passes will only be given to troopers that agree to be at the table the majority of the time in costume, whether or not we do something like Blast-a-Trooper for charity fund raising --assuming we have room for an activity like these. Sure, some breaks can be had, but please sign up only if you are willing to be in costume and at/near the table the majority of your shift(s). If not, please let someone that will troop have that pass. We may, of course, also have the entire group, except for one table guard or handler, go around the convention to explore here and there, but most of the time should be at/near the 501st table. If we have props at the table, they should not be allowed to get stolen, so someone needs to stay behind. Speaking of tables, we are confirmed to have 4 tables for plenty of props and display items... and will most likely be on the hotel lobby side instead of by the entrance we were at last time. Based on the tickets, the times (and potential shifts) could be as follows: Troopers with their own passes that can join us whenever they'd like to: Marcus D. and Lisa Michel S. Kathy P.. John M. + Amanda Lorrie P. + Terry New Update (3/17/2022): Derby City Squad (form BlueGrass Garrison -KY) will be bringing their fun props again: Speader bikes, AT-ST, and desert wall to show Navarro scene. With that, they would like to "employ" 3 MSG troopers to staff/support/work for them to help in kit (Biker Scout and or AT-ST Driver or not), which may include setup and tear down in shifts. "Payment" would be a vendor pass per trooper that helps (up to 3) in addition to our own pool... and obviously for that trooper. Also, the donations they collect will also be split with MSG to boot, so incentives all around. Plus, it is always good to help our KY Garrison neighbors when possible. If you are willing to help them out, and are able to stay with the props during the shift(s), please post a reply below... and we will add you to a separate pool of passes. Please indicate what times you are available to help for the weekend. Derby City Squad helpers (and indicate costume as well) -- Laryssa A --Biker Scout (Rebels version) --Friday and Saturday -- -- Friday - 12 Noon - 6pm (one shift and this may include setup time for the table if we have anything for it). SETUP ? 12PM-6PM Ron Z. --TK (maybe Scout) Scott S. --The Emperor (+1 handler) Michael R. -- RG/IC/IG Scott H. --ROTJ Scout (maybe ROTJ Fett) Saturday - (9am VIP access) 10am-6pm (2 shifts) 9AM-1PM Michael R. -- RG/IC/IG Ron Z. --TK (maybe Scout) --maybe morning. Enrique D. --Lord Vader (+1 handler) Christian D. --TK Scott S. --The Emperor (+1 handler) Robby B. --TK David G. --IC Nick G.-- Sith Acolyte (+1 handler) Chuck S. --Shadow Gaurd (+1 handler) 1PM-6PM Michael R. -- RG/IC/IG Ron Z. --TK (maybe Scout) Enrique D. --Lord Vader (+1 handler) Christian D. --TK Scott S. --The Emperor (+1 handler) Nick G.-- Sith Acolyte (+1 handler) Chuck S. --Shadow Gaurd (+1 handler) Sunday - (10am VIP access) 11am-6pm (2 shifts) 10AM-2PM Michael R. -- RG/IC/IG Scott S. --The Emperor (+1 handler) 2PM-6PM (also includes tear-down and clean up of table) Michael R. -- RG/IC/IG Scott S. --The Emperor (+1 handler) Visiting Troopers that would like passes (if available?): Sat - AL - John Tucker DZ12667 TIE Sat - AL - John Tucker's wife TI 11474 as TIE So, please sign up below and indicate SHIFT(s) you can do and Costume(s) you will use that shift. This event is just under 2 months away, so for now, "tentative" signups can be placed here, but for the free passes to be planned out, please organize your plans by April 15th. Any signups still labeled "tentative" after April 15th will be dropped to the waiting list in favor of those who know they can attend. Please sign up BY APRIL 22nd: We will assign the free passes after that point. You can still cancel if you need to, such as for COVID-19 concerns and the like, but you cannot be added after that to the main rosters. We can add you to the bottom of the waiting list anyway, but not to the main rosters until after the waiting list has been processed for any that signed up before you. If by that point, we do still have unused passes for a shift, handlers can then be eligible in the order of signup. As of this moment, Tammey (or who ever Rick's handler will be) would have the first free pass if there are any still opened after April 22nd. If not, handlers will need to get the 50% discounted ticket or buy their own outright. If you have props you plan to bring for the table display, please also add that as well. I'm not sure if we will have table cloths provided or not for the tables, but if we do, that could be nice too. For example, I have some Dreams and Wishes of TN material we can use on the table. If we are able to collect, or think we'd like to try, I can let Tanya know we'll be collecting and bring that material with me.
  23. Hello

    I am not an expert on Mandos (including Boba and Jango Fett), so I cannot say. Nothing jumps out at me as bad based on the pictures. The price is high, but that might be normal once you add all the parts together. A worry could be that the one pictured is to attract you, and the one you'd get would not be so good... I see all the customization options on it, so the one in the picture is not the one you're getting. I see a few other items from that seller for other things... some look nice, others don't look very accurate. For a $20.00 item, not a big deal if you think it is close and worth the risk... but $4,400 is a lot to risk for him to be almost right... especially if you wind up having to replace parts of it for accuracy. You could look at the proper CRL and compare/contrast to see if it does. For Jango, there is only one CRL, so that should make things easy/easier. Assuming what is pictured is what you'd get, I'd go down the CRL... line by line and see if anything jumps out at you as being wrong. One little thing that can be easily replaced may not matter for you, but if it adds up, or enough is wrong, you'll wind up paying even more to fix it. Try to look at everything from the belt boxes to darts on the cuff, to the boots, to the detail on the armor. I would be nervous to pay so much for it, and then find out when you get it that the dimensions are off, or it is too thin for the armor. Braden, or another, might be able to help as far as the price range and the details, but don't forget to factor your own size in to it. If you are tall, or short, or not the same size as the guy in the pictures, it could look great for him and not for you. You can be bigger, or smaller, but the armor has to adjust with your size just like the flight suit would have to... proportionally. If his pictures are exactly what you'd get, and everything fits, it looks pretty good to my eyes. The only thing I notice when I compare them is that the boots look a little too generic... but I'm not sure what tolerance with the treading there is for things like this. If I hadn't just looked at the CRL, I sure would not have know he had that boot-style. Ex: vs His helmet and some of the armor also looks warn/weathered, and the CRL seems to indicate shiny... but there could be allowances for that as well. Again, this is not my specialty. Anyone else have better feedback for Andrew on this?
  24. Hello

    If you live in Memphis, there is a squad there, called Twin Sun Squad... covering most of the "Greater Memphis Area". My guess is that they will be there. That is not on the forum calendar yet, but may be something that they know is coming up... just haven't gotten the event request for it yet. I have gotten a few decent things off of Ebay, but the trick is to view as many pictures for scale and accuracy as you can, and compare them to the CRL listings you are aiming for before buying anything. Basically, you have to know what you're looking at and make sure it is really the right items. Check feedback as well, if possible, and never believe the claims about being 501st Approved. As the others have said or implied, that usually means it is garbage. They are looking for suckers to buy it, and once you send payment, good luck! Lucasfilm/Disney owns the rights, so until they start selling them directly, no one else would have legal rights to sell such complete costumes. That is the short answer. You can sell a DIY kit for almost anything without getting into trouble, but not a completed item. The detachments are great at knowing that set of costumes specifically, and the correct items vs some knockoffs. And, since many of them have built or assembled those exact costumes before, you can be sure they know what you're looking for even more than somone like me that has never built a Boba or Jango Fett (or even Mandalorian) costume in his life.
  25. Hello

    Welcome Andrew, For those costumes, the CRL section you would want to focus on would be here: https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:CRLbyname#BH_-_Bounty_Hunter You actually have a few options for Boba Fett, and then one for Jango Fett. You'd only have to match the Level 1 features, but feel free to go for Level 2 or Level 3.
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